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8.10 Volume with Disc Method: Revolving Around Other Axes

3 min readfebruary 15, 2024

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Welcome back to Fiveable AP Calculus! Today we are adapting the disc method to find volumes of objects that were rotated around an axis. If you want a quick refresher on the original disc method, click here for access to our 8.9 guide.

🌪️Revolving Around Other Axes

Let’s get into it!

⚾ The Basics

By “revolving around other axes” we mean that a function will revolve around either a horizontal (y=5) or vertical (x=3) axis. It is possible to revolve a function around other types of straight lines, but those transformations are more advanced than the scope of AP Calculus. So you might see…

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Courtesy of MathBits.com

Or you might see

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Courtesy of Math24.net

But you won’t have to solve anything more complicated.

🧠 How to Solve

Solving for the volume of a rotated shape with a different horizontal/vertical axis is actually pretty similar to solving for one with a standard x or y-axis! Remember that volume can be represented as an integral by adding up the area of many thin circular cross-sections, and don’t forget to draw out each problem to help you visualize what a rotation looks like.

Step 1: Determine Your Method of Rotation

As a rule of thumb, if you rotate around a horizontal line (such as y=7 or the x-axis), you should write your integral in terms of x, which might look something like abf(x)dx\int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx. If you are given a vertical line to rotate around, your integral should be written in terms of y and look likeabf(y)dy\int_{a}^{b}f(y)dy.

Just remember, horizontal rotation works with x and vertical rotation works with y!

Step 2: Set Up Your Equation

Just like how we can show a 2D area with by adding a bunch of thin rectangles, we can represent a 3D volume by adding a bunch of thin discs,. The key to setting up your integral is to understand how to calculate the area of these disks! This is where drawing tends to come in handy (don’t worry it doesn’t have to be good).

Screenshot 2024-01-29 230016.png

Image Courtesy of Julianna Fontanilla

As you can see on the right, the areas of these discs or cross sections will always be circular since to find them, we take a set distance/radius and rotate it 360 degrees. From basic algebra, we know that the area of a circle equals πr2\pi r^2. From here, we want to find r.

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Image Courtesy of Julianna Fontanilla

As you can see in the picture, r is equal to the distance between the function’s value and the axis of rotation. In this example, the axis of rotation is implied to be y=2y=2, since it is a graphed straight line. This means that r can be mathematically represented by f(x)2f(x)-2, and if the axis of rotation is y=by=b (where b is some constant), r can be represented by f(x)bf(x) - b. In the same way, r can also be represented by f(y)af(y) -a where the axis of rotation is vertical and equal to x=ax=a

Putting this together with the earlier knowledge that area is πr2\pi r^2, we get that the area in terms of x or y equals π(f(x)b)2\pi(f(x)-b)^2 or π(f(y)a)2\pi(f(y)-a)^2.

Therefore, the integral should look like cdπ(f(x)b)2dx**\int_{c}^{d}\pi (f(x)-b)^2 dx or cdπ(f(y)a)2dy\int_{c}^{d}\pi (f(y)-a)^2 dy** where the axis of rotation is y=by=b or x=ax=a.

The upper and lower limit of the integral (c and d) is either outright stated in the problem or occurs at the intersections of f(x) with an axis or another function, maybe g(x). This is visually apparent by graphing each function, but can also be solved algebraically by setting f(x) = g(x) or f(x) = 0 or whatever other line or function that was mentioned in the problem.

👍TL;DR

Just need an equation to memorize? Use one of these integrals:

1.cdπ(f(x)b)2dx1. \int_{c}^{d}\pi (f(x)-b)^2 dx
2.cdπ(f(y)a)2dy2. \int_{c}^{d}\pi (f(y)-a)^2 dy

Use the first equation when rotating around a horizontal axis given as y=by=b and the second equation for a vertical axis given as x=ax=a. Make sure the square exponent goes outside of the parenthesis, and be mindful that subtracting a negative constant gives a positive value!


🌶️ Practice Time!

Rotate the region bounded by y=10e2xy=10e^{2x} between x=2x= -2 and x=1x=-1 about the line y=3y=-3.

Screenshot 2024-01-29 233122.png

Courtesy of Desmos

Give it a try then scroll down for the solution!

✏️ Answer to Practice Question

We know that the integral’s general format is cdπ(f(x)b)2dx\int_{c}^{d}\pi (f(x)-b)^2 dx or cdπ(f(y)a)2dy\int_{c}^{d}\pi (f(y)-a)^2 dy. Since we are rotating around a horizontal line (the green one in the picture), we will be using the first equation. Remember that horizontal axes usually use f(x)dx and vertical ones use f(y)dy!

Our upper and lower bounds are given to us directly in the problem, as -2 and -1. We also know that f(x)=10e2xf(x) = 10e^{2x} and that the axis of rotation is y=3y=-3 so b=3.b=-3.

Plugging this into the general format, we get

21π(10e2x+3)2dx\int_{-2}^{-1}\pi (10e^{2x}+3)^2 dx

For more help on how to solve this integral, go here for our guide on integration and accumulation!

First of all, the constant multiple rule for integration states that af(x)dx=af(x)dx\int a f(x) dx=a \int f(x)dx so the above integral equals

π21(10e2x+3)2dx\pi \int_{-2}^{-1} (10e^{2x}+3)^2 dx

Using FOIL on the middle of the integral gives

π21(100e4x+60e2x+9)dx\pi \int_{-2}^{-1} (100e^{4x}+60e^{2x}+9) dx

Using some basic u-substitution, this integral simplifies to

π(25e4x+30e2x+9x)21 \pi (25e^{4x}+30e^{2x}+9x) \Biggr|_{-2}^{-1}

If you are unsure if you integrated properly, you can always take the derivative of your solution to see if it matches the original!

Our final answer can be found by plugging in -1 and -2 for x, and subtracting appropriately. This gives

π(25e4+30e29)π(25e8+30e418) \pi (25e^{-4}+30e^{-2}-9)-\pi (25e^{-8}+30e^{-4}-18)

which also equals

π(25e85e4+30e2+9)\pi (-25e^{-8}-5e^{-4}+30e^{-2}+9)

In a calculator, this is approximately equal to 40.7. Don’t forget to multiply by π\pi at the end! You got this! 🍀

Key Terms to Review (8)

Analytical Methods

: Analytical methods refer to mathematical techniques used to solve problems and analyze data. These methods involve breaking down complex problems into smaller, more manageable parts and using mathematical tools to find solutions.

Area of a Circle

: The area of a circle refers to the amount of space enclosed by its circumference.

Axis of Revolution

: The axis of revolution is an imaginary line around which a two-dimensional shape rotates to create a three-dimensional object. It serves as the central point for rotation.

Cross-sectional Shape

: The cross-sectional shape refers to the two-dimensional figure obtained when slicing through a three-dimensional object perpendicular to its axis of revolution.

Limits of Integration

: The limits of integration are the values that determine the range over which an integral is evaluated. They specify the starting and ending points on the x-axis for finding the area or calculating other quantities using integration.

Numerical Methods

: Numerical methods are techniques used to approximate solutions to mathematical problems when exact solutions are difficult or impossible to find analytically. These methods involve using algorithms, computations, and iterative processes to obtain numerical approximations.

Radius

: The radius is the distance from the center of a circle to any point on its circumference.

Solids of Revolution

: Solids of revolution are three-dimensional shapes formed by rotating a two-dimensional shape around an axis. The resulting solid has the same cross-sectional area at every point along its length.

8.10 Volume with Disc Method: Revolving Around Other Axes

3 min readfebruary 15, 2024

Attend a live cram event

Review all units live with expert teachers & students

Welcome back to Fiveable AP Calculus! Today we are adapting the disc method to find volumes of objects that were rotated around an axis. If you want a quick refresher on the original disc method, click here for access to our 8.9 guide.

🌪️Revolving Around Other Axes

Let’s get into it!

⚾ The Basics

By “revolving around other axes” we mean that a function will revolve around either a horizontal (y=5) or vertical (x=3) axis. It is possible to revolve a function around other types of straight lines, but those transformations are more advanced than the scope of AP Calculus. So you might see…

Untitled

Courtesy of MathBits.com

Or you might see

Untitled

Courtesy of Math24.net

But you won’t have to solve anything more complicated.

🧠 How to Solve

Solving for the volume of a rotated shape with a different horizontal/vertical axis is actually pretty similar to solving for one with a standard x or y-axis! Remember that volume can be represented as an integral by adding up the area of many thin circular cross-sections, and don’t forget to draw out each problem to help you visualize what a rotation looks like.

Step 1: Determine Your Method of Rotation

As a rule of thumb, if you rotate around a horizontal line (such as y=7 or the x-axis), you should write your integral in terms of x, which might look something like abf(x)dx\int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx. If you are given a vertical line to rotate around, your integral should be written in terms of y and look likeabf(y)dy\int_{a}^{b}f(y)dy.

Just remember, horizontal rotation works with x and vertical rotation works with y!

Step 2: Set Up Your Equation

Just like how we can show a 2D area with by adding a bunch of thin rectangles, we can represent a 3D volume by adding a bunch of thin discs,. The key to setting up your integral is to understand how to calculate the area of these disks! This is where drawing tends to come in handy (don’t worry it doesn’t have to be good).

Screenshot 2024-01-29 230016.png

Image Courtesy of Julianna Fontanilla

As you can see on the right, the areas of these discs or cross sections will always be circular since to find them, we take a set distance/radius and rotate it 360 degrees. From basic algebra, we know that the area of a circle equals πr2\pi r^2. From here, we want to find r.

Untitled

Image Courtesy of Julianna Fontanilla

As you can see in the picture, r is equal to the distance between the function’s value and the axis of rotation. In this example, the axis of rotation is implied to be y=2y=2, since it is a graphed straight line. This means that r can be mathematically represented by f(x)2f(x)-2, and if the axis of rotation is y=by=b (where b is some constant), r can be represented by f(x)bf(x) - b. In the same way, r can also be represented by f(y)af(y) -a where the axis of rotation is vertical and equal to x=ax=a

Putting this together with the earlier knowledge that area is πr2\pi r^2, we get that the area in terms of x or y equals π(f(x)b)2\pi(f(x)-b)^2 or π(f(y)a)2\pi(f(y)-a)^2.

Therefore, the integral should look like cdπ(f(x)b)2dx**\int_{c}^{d}\pi (f(x)-b)^2 dx or cdπ(f(y)a)2dy\int_{c}^{d}\pi (f(y)-a)^2 dy** where the axis of rotation is y=by=b or x=ax=a.

The upper and lower limit of the integral (c and d) is either outright stated in the problem or occurs at the intersections of f(x) with an axis or another function, maybe g(x). This is visually apparent by graphing each function, but can also be solved algebraically by setting f(x) = g(x) or f(x) = 0 or whatever other line or function that was mentioned in the problem.

👍TL;DR

Just need an equation to memorize? Use one of these integrals:

1.cdπ(f(x)b)2dx1. \int_{c}^{d}\pi (f(x)-b)^2 dx
2.cdπ(f(y)a)2dy2. \int_{c}^{d}\pi (f(y)-a)^2 dy

Use the first equation when rotating around a horizontal axis given as y=by=b and the second equation for a vertical axis given as x=ax=a. Make sure the square exponent goes outside of the parenthesis, and be mindful that subtracting a negative constant gives a positive value!


🌶️ Practice Time!

Rotate the region bounded by y=10e2xy=10e^{2x} between x=2x= -2 and x=1x=-1 about the line y=3y=-3.

Screenshot 2024-01-29 233122.png

Courtesy of Desmos

Give it a try then scroll down for the solution!

✏️ Answer to Practice Question

We know that the integral’s general format is cdπ(f(x)b)2dx\int_{c}^{d}\pi (f(x)-b)^2 dx or cdπ(f(y)a)2dy\int_{c}^{d}\pi (f(y)-a)^2 dy. Since we are rotating around a horizontal line (the green one in the picture), we will be using the first equation. Remember that horizontal axes usually use f(x)dx and vertical ones use f(y)dy!

Our upper and lower bounds are given to us directly in the problem, as -2 and -1. We also know that f(x)=10e2xf(x) = 10e^{2x} and that the axis of rotation is y=3y=-3 so b=3.b=-3.

Plugging this into the general format, we get

21π(10e2x+3)2dx\int_{-2}^{-1}\pi (10e^{2x}+3)^2 dx

For more help on how to solve this integral, go here for our guide on integration and accumulation!

First of all, the constant multiple rule for integration states that af(x)dx=af(x)dx\int a f(x) dx=a \int f(x)dx so the above integral equals

π21(10e2x+3)2dx\pi \int_{-2}^{-1} (10e^{2x}+3)^2 dx

Using FOIL on the middle of the integral gives

π21(100e4x+60e2x+9)dx\pi \int_{-2}^{-1} (100e^{4x}+60e^{2x}+9) dx

Using some basic u-substitution, this integral simplifies to

π(25e4x+30e2x+9x)21 \pi (25e^{4x}+30e^{2x}+9x) \Biggr|_{-2}^{-1}

If you are unsure if you integrated properly, you can always take the derivative of your solution to see if it matches the original!

Our final answer can be found by plugging in -1 and -2 for x, and subtracting appropriately. This gives

π(25e4+30e29)π(25e8+30e418) \pi (25e^{-4}+30e^{-2}-9)-\pi (25e^{-8}+30e^{-4}-18)

which also equals

π(25e85e4+30e2+9)\pi (-25e^{-8}-5e^{-4}+30e^{-2}+9)

In a calculator, this is approximately equal to 40.7. Don’t forget to multiply by π\pi at the end! You got this! 🍀

Key Terms to Review (8)

Analytical Methods

: Analytical methods refer to mathematical techniques used to solve problems and analyze data. These methods involve breaking down complex problems into smaller, more manageable parts and using mathematical tools to find solutions.

Area of a Circle

: The area of a circle refers to the amount of space enclosed by its circumference.

Axis of Revolution

: The axis of revolution is an imaginary line around which a two-dimensional shape rotates to create a three-dimensional object. It serves as the central point for rotation.

Cross-sectional Shape

: The cross-sectional shape refers to the two-dimensional figure obtained when slicing through a three-dimensional object perpendicular to its axis of revolution.

Limits of Integration

: The limits of integration are the values that determine the range over which an integral is evaluated. They specify the starting and ending points on the x-axis for finding the area or calculating other quantities using integration.

Numerical Methods

: Numerical methods are techniques used to approximate solutions to mathematical problems when exact solutions are difficult or impossible to find analytically. These methods involve using algorithms, computations, and iterative processes to obtain numerical approximations.

Radius

: The radius is the distance from the center of a circle to any point on its circumference.

Solids of Revolution

: Solids of revolution are three-dimensional shapes formed by rotating a two-dimensional shape around an axis. The resulting solid has the same cross-sectional area at every point along its length.


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